AR-15 AK-47 Handgun Precision Rifles Armory Training Competitive Shooting General Outdoors Archery Hometown Industry. That combination produced a 101 f.p.s. I stepped forward and fired my .308 to my immediate benefit. easily picks up the pace shooting larger game and longer distances, but cannot spare any bullet speed for such pursuits. All of it is in the old rectangle tins. Top speeds for those bullets come from propellants such as TAC, IMR 4064, CFE 223, IMR 4895, Reloder 15 and A2460. bullets turned in a much narrower spread of 42 f.p.s. Other propellants, such as IMR 3031 and 4895, TAC, and W748, have provided good accuracy with target bullets in other .308 rifles. Double Base. of H322 (listed in the load table), is nearly half that of full-measure loads with 150-gr. spitzers. 4064 vs H335 vs Varget This may be to general of a question. shooting quality bullets. “Big bear,” the guide said, stepping back.Â. 4064, read that's what is in the Fed Gold Match load, not sure if true. of IMR 4895 produced a mild speed of 2473 f.p.s. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. AccuBond, Hornady’s 168-gr. I used to load a lot of 3031 years ago, but not any lately. IMR 4064, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer 190 gr. Perhaps Alliant Power Pro 2000 MR or CFE 223 would be a good choice. Two seasons ago, I shot a six-point bull elk as it stood quartering away at 237 yds. Precision Rifles » Reloading. Genltefolks, Lately, I have been playing around with trying to find a new load for my .308 Savage, 24 inch barrel. before it fell dead. bullets and the .308 Win. From the list, there are 15 powders between them. Testing the 175gr Sierra Match King in our new JP SuperMatch .308 Win barrel using IMR 4064. cases are available they cost at least 50 cents apiece. IMR 3031 is significantly faster than the other two. Could not come up with a load for the XBR powder at all (and I've tried several commercial brands as well as "match" brass). 308 Winchester load development with the Sierra 175 grain MatchKing (SMK) and IMR 4064 Powder. IMR Double Base Powders – Enduron. Having tried several of the powders mentioned above, my personal experience goes like this. The consensus is to shoot heavy bullets when hunting large game like elk and giant black bears. IMR 4064 and 4895 are also listed in the manuals for these bullets. R-1 Norma 2. [Last Edit: 6/9/2015 10:03:49 AM EST by Southrnshooter], [Last Edit: 6/11/2015 5:07:04 AM EST by towerofpower94], [ARFCOM NEWS] NRA Backed Marco Rubio, BETRAYS Gun Owners! The Mossberg’s skinny barrel felt hot enough to light a cigar after firing 10 shots. AA 4064 is probably a touch faster in terms of burn rate. The Great Ammo Shortage of 2020: When Will It End? If the RL-15 doesn’t work well would the IMR 4064 or 4895 be the next one to try? The 20" barrel of the Mossberg MVP Predator rifle, used to shoot the loads in the accompanying table, fired 150-gr. FB Target, Nosler’s 150-gr. Varget and RL15 are other good choices. E-mail your comments/questions about this site to:EmediaRifleman@nrahq.org For questions/comments about American Rifleman magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Rifleman, visit nramediakit.com for more information. GMX fired from my Mossberg .308 hit the bull in the rear rib, punched up through the lungs and lodged under the hide in front of the far shoulder. Joined: Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:39 am Posts: 151 A4064 (XMR) has a somewhat shorter kernel length and it meters a little better than IMR 4064. If I need heavier bullet that is what the 30-06 is for. For deer hunting, 150-gr. The author harvested this one with a 165-gr. Probably should have put that last sentence first. The GMX bullet dropped the bear dead right there. So its certainly within spec. IMR 3031, 4064, 4198, 4227, 4320, 4350, 4831m 4895, 7828 and 7828 SSC. Here's the whole list: Fastest to slowest burn rates 1. A 20" barrel provides quite acceptable bullet speed for the 40-some grains of propellant the .308 burns. Bullets such as the Nosler AccuBond or Hornady GMX hold onto most of their weight no matter what they encounter in the woods. But these light amounts of propellant slosh around in a .308 Win. match like wool socks and winter. I ended up buying the H-4895 because it had 308 Win. Ruger American Compact may cause a sensitive shoulder to wince. The cases were clean, bright and shiny as new. case. case, leading to wide swings in velocity. Trimming the cases to the correct length and removing the crimp around the primer pocket finalized them for loading. The cartridge’s enormous popularity (second only to the .223 Rem. ... 4895 work great in 30-06, 308, and 7-08. with the same length barrel won’t exceed those speeds. below the maximum listed in the Sierra Bullet Infinity 7.0 program. The following spring, in Northern Alberta, my guide and I were filling the bait barrel with popcorn. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. Bullets that ration expansion are a better bet for these big animals. The general rule I like is to use powders faster than Varget that are listed below. All Rights Reserved. Reloading Powder Recall: Accurate 2495, 4064, and 4350. spread over 10 shots. Can't believe I almost forgot  another powder that our rifle likes, Hodgdon Benchmark. By the way, don't take what whomever happens to answer the phone at the seller's HQ tells you for Gospel. The 165-gr. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Both had good groups but recoil was a touch more with the varget. with a near-maximum charge of TAC that fairly well filled a .308 Win. Accuracy was similar between the two. M1 Garand 308 and M1A 308 Loading Data Suggestions All Loads To Be Used At … IMR Double Base Hi-Skor 700x and 800x. That’s good advice with regular bullets, say Sierra 180-gr. Friday, February 10, 2017. 3031 is a little fast, but if your rifle likes it, it should be fine. The order of preference of powders in 308 match loads seems to be Varget, H or IMR-4895, 4064, and 3031. I can only shoot out to 100yds, but if it's loose at 100 it's gonna be just as bad at 1000. bullets are too much for the .308’s moderate-size case, causing a steep decline in velocity and trajectory. 4064 works in a couple of other rifles I have so, I stocked up on it. IMR Double Base Powders – IMR Target. In contrast, Berger 125-gr. Min Charge Max Charge Optimal Charge Bullet Make Bullet Type Primer Notes; Accurate - 2230: 130 gr. SMK, 41.0 gr. loads shot from a 6-lb. In my experience, IMR 4895 is extremely versatile and would be my first choice in working up a load in a 9.3x57 simply because it seems to have a very linear pressure/velocity curve and also does well at rather low pressures in reduced loads. Imr4350 may be a goodie! Now I have to work up a new load for my .308's that will work with my suppressor. N310, Vihtavuori 3. bullets—the perfect weights for the .308—which produce a trajectory a few inches flatter at long distance than 180s. That maintained weight allows shooting 150- to 165-gr. ... (subs, and maybe super too). SMK, 40.0 gr. Also the powder measure and the amount you are producing has an impact. A nice feature of this reduced load is that the bullets hit only 1" below full-power 150-gr. Hornady 150-gr. Which do you guys prefer or seems to be the go to for a 308 with 1/10 twist using a 175gr SMK? Some hunters, though, want the assurance bullets will hang together on iffy angles and tough animals. If there is any concern about adequate bullet expansion at these slower speeds, simply load bullets intended for the .30-30 Win. SIE HPBT MR IMR 4064 .308" 2.800" Min GR MV 41.5 2,500 45,200 PSI Max GR MV 45.6C 2,728 59,500 PSI It may be because the 4350 gives the bullet more of a push rather than a slap. IMR 4350 was listed at 94 with H 4350 at 95. A load of 39.6 to 42.4 Grains of IMR-4895 will be accurate, easy one the rifle, provide a good hunting load for deer. A .30-'06 Sprg. bullets and 1" above 168- and 180-gr. Win 748, LC Match, Fed 210 Primer Long Range .308 Match Loads – Effective past 500 Meters 41.8 is almost the starting load for a 175 gr SMK based on the IMR loading guide. I have been using 168 SMK's, 45.5 Varget, Winny brass and CCI 200 LR primers, seated at COAL 2.870 and have been happy. So, I can't find any H4895 or IMR 4895 (yes, I know they are different, and I have loads for both) - except, ironically in Canada. 117) IMR-8208 XBR 118) Ramshot TAC 119) Hodgdon H-4895 120) Vihtavuori N530 121) IMR-4895 122) Scot Brig 4065 123) Vihtavuori N135 124) Alliant Reloder 12 125) Alliant Varmint 125) Accurate 2495 126) Vectan 5000 127) IMR-4064 128) Norma N-202 129) Accurate 4064 130) Alliant AR-Comp 131) Accurate 2520 132) Alliant Reloder 15 133) Norma N-203 A-MAX bullets reasonably precisely when paired with Reloder 15. Speer Hot-Core SPBT has proven accurate and hard hitting. A black bear came out of the bush at a determined pace for the bait. Probably not significant in "normal" size cases, like a 308 or larger. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Personally I dislike metering so better is entirely subjective. To keep my .308 rifles shooting, I bought a box of 500 once-fired military surplus 7.62x51 mm NATO cases from Everglades Ammo and Reloading (evergladesammo.com) for $85 delivered to my door. Top speeds for those bullets come from propellants such as TAC, IMR 4064, CFE 223, IMR 4895, Reloder 15 and A2460. Still, the hunting rifle shot Hornady 168-gr. Pick up a pound and do some workups, I got some great results from it as well. The 16" barrels of various “scout” rifles lose upwards of 100 f.p.s of velocity compared with the same loads fired through 18.5" barrels, and they give up 125 f.p.s when compared to 22" barrels. I tried to list all the powders from my Hodgden manual. I would try the IMR4064 first,  then I would go with H4895 over IMR4895 but both would work. Pro-Hunter, Berger’s 125-gr. bullets at 100 yds., so sight adjustment can remain the same, whether punching paper or hunting. cases are available they cost at least 50 cents apiece. See our selection of IMR Powders like 4895, 4064, 4198, Trail Boss & the new Enduron 4166, 4451 & 4955. 7.62x54, 30-06, 30-30 and 8x56R all use IMR 4895. The .308 Winchester is not only a historic battlefield caliber, it is an established match caliber and one of the best all-around North American hunting calibers. The proper burn rate powder for the .308 is a mid-range rifle powder, which gives the reloader a large selection of appropriate choices. bullets at nearly 2800 f.p.s. Pro-Hunter. Heavier bullets produced similarly low velocity spans. I load my .308 with 165gr Nosler Parts only. Lake City brass or commercial cases? The powder grains are much shorter cut than IMR 4064 … Repurposing Surplus BrassThe supply of new cases for handloading remains erratic, and when .308 Win. Here is the IMR BULLET WEIGHT 175 GR. bullets, listed in the table, is 4.9 grs. Have any of you loaded for the 308 with RL-15 and had good results? 01-03-2021, 10:20 PM #8. Not much speed is required for a bullet to punch through the ribs of a deer standing broadside out to 150 yds. In this post, I’ll be developing a load for my M40A3 clone. Military cases are usually thicker and have less internal capacity than commercial cases. Peregrine. But I have come into some H380 and IMR 4064 … Hornady states SST bullets readily expand at impact speeds down to 2000 f.p.s, which that load slows to at 225 yds. Good examples include (from left): Sierra’s 125-gr. I’d like to keep it as simple as I can with my powder selection. Have you chrono'd it? IMR 8208XBR. 190 gr. Bullets such as the, he supply of new cases for handloading remains erratic, and when .308 Win. I'm curious what you are getting. I was able to get an 8 pound keg of H-4895 this past weekend for a very cheap price, couldn't pass it up. Bullets that ration expansion are a better bet for these big animals. IMR Double Base Pistol/Shotshell – Red – Green – Blue – Unequal. The bull pitched off the mountain, but made it only 60 yds. 180's were a close second. DuPont IMR 4064 and 4895 data I just obtained approx 1 1/2#'s each of Dupont IMR 4064 & IMR 4895. Huge difference. For a 147-150 Gr FMJ try 43.0 to 45.0 grains of IMR-4895, LC cases or Commercial Winch, Winchester LR primer, OAL: 2.795" The 165 gr. 4064 is a good powder for 223-308, but so is 3031, 4895, Varget, RL15, and about 10 others. I shoot a Rem700 AAC as well. I have some 4064 and 4895. Hornady GMX. from the 18.5" barrel of a Mossberg MVP Flex rifle in .308 Win. Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:30 am . The 38.5 grs. The load still shot fine, although with some vertical stringing. In short, I have 19 lbs of IMR 4064 to use up and a little less than a pound of 4166. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2021 National Rifle Association of America. The .308 Winchester provides middle-of-the-road ballistic performance, yet produces first-rate utility. The thing I did not know was that IMR and Hodgdon both make 4895 powder. The Rifle: Savage 10fcp, 24" 5r, accustock .308 Win, Vortex Viper PST 4 … The most accurate loads aren't usually at the top of the velocity curve anyway. Rest In Peace My Son (01/06/1986 - 14/01/2014) ''Assume everything that moves is a human before identifying as otherwise'' 07-08-2020, 07:54 AM #9. tomme boy. and 180s close to 2700 f.p.s. However, in small cases like a .223 or a 6BR or even possibly a Dasher sized case, the higher load density may (and I mean MAY) be of benefit. What got me to looking into this is wanting to try some IMR 4064 in my .308 BLR to see what the groupings are like compared to the Varget loads that I have settled on. Anyway, I finally found a place with three lbs for 4064, with a two container max order. works well with a variety of bullet weights. listed on the lable and knew I was safe buying it as opposed buying another just trying to rely on just my crap memory. Whether the IMR product has changed in the meantime I can't say since I haven't bought or used any IMR 4064 for many years. projectiles loaded with 38.5 grs. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. Has anyone gotten good results using H-4895 powder for loading .308 wcf accuracy loads or long range loads using 168 grain SMK or 175 grain SMK bullets. 2.690 in. The DuPont IMR 4064 had a much longer grain than the current AA 4064. This is serious. The bulk of the cases were Lake City, but headstamps also included “FC” (Federal Cartridge) and “RA” (Remington) with the NATO insignia headstamp of a cross in a circle from various years. But the recoil of regular .308 Win. I have used both in 308, under 150-168 gr bullets. Ive heard some say 4166 is similar to 4064, which I haven't used or have on hand currently. more and had 4 percent less total capacity than Hornady cases. Those two are virtually the same powder and several powders, on my chart, slower than the previous two. Might as well be on Mars. However, 200-gr. I love 4064 but have supplemented it with Varget and RE15. Barnes Tipped Triple Shock, Nosler AccuBond and Hornady GMX bullets provide that surety. I had 5 factory 150gr Federal Fusions I zeroed my scope with. Traditional bullets, such as Hornady InterLock and Sierra Pro-Hunter, are tough to beat for price and for performance at .308 speeds. Charge weight will most likely end up close. Best loads I ever got in my Ruger 77 '06 were with 4350 and 165 gr. 44.5 gr. IMR 4064 was listed at 79. Readers — if you reload with Accurate-brand 2495, 4064, or 4350 powders, check your containers now! A skilled reloader can take Any set of cases, Any match grade bullet, Any powder, and Any suitable primer; and develope a great shooting load. Thanks in advance for any input. by John Haviland - And, in my opinion, these abbreviated barrels are no handier than a 20" barrel. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. H4895 is an extreme powder while IMR 4895 is not. Now I need to start using it. A-MAX and Sierra’s 180-gr. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. A size die set the shoulders back to the proper headspace dimension. The .308 Win. Young hands appreciate the ease of handling a lightweight rifle, and someone starting down the hunting trail needs plenty of practice. 47.5 gr. To compensate for that smaller volume, I reduced maximum powder charges listed in handloading manuals by about 4 percent and mostly use them for low-pressure cast bullet and practice loads. Post subject: Re: imr 4064 vs xmr 4064. The .308 Win. Tried IMR 4064 and Varget in my 308 hunting rifle. Midsouth Shooters is THE powder and primer source! Those powders have given me my best groups in my M1A. They were 0.011" longer measured to the datum point of the shoulder than Hornady commercial cases fired in my .308 Mossberg bolt-action and Colt autoloader. I'm not sure why. 4064 was ok, but the tightest groups for me were with Varget and it didn't matter whether it was 155gn SMK or 168gn SMK. Accurate Powder is recalling certain lots of these powders in both 1-lb and 8-lb containers. The LAR Grizzly: Magnum Power in an Upsized 1911, The Bonded-Core Bullet: A Revolution for the Hunter, © 2021 National Rifle Association of America. + Sig Delivers NEW Rifle Prototypes. The all around best powders are IMR 4895, Hodgdon H4895 and Accurate 2495. I remembered R-15, IMR4064 and 4895. IMR 4064 or 4895 for 308 1/10. of H322 loaded with Sierra 125-gr. SST bullets paired with 41.0 grs. 44.6 gr imr 8208XBR Fed 210 primers OAL 2.83 Winchester Brass Velocity: avg~2900fps right about 5/8ths MOA 1/2 moa lower than my standard load (above: 155 A-max 44.6 imr 8208xbr OAL 2.82 @2950fps) I like the 155 grain bullets, if you guys come across some and don't want them, let me know on here as I will probably buy them Black bears are no match for the .308 Win. The recoil created by 125-gr. So I ordered two lbs. Get the American Rifleman Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. To keep my .308 rifles shooting, I bought a box of 500 once-fired military surplus 7.62x51 mm NATO cases from Everglades Ammo and Reloading (, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Marlin Model 1895: Top-Selling Lever-Action Rifle of 2020, Colt's Model 1855 Revolving Rifle in the Civil War. Reducing recoil by way of decreasing bullet weights and propellant charges is likely to encourage meaningful practice. I don't believe IMR 4895 and H4895 are the same. Pro-Hunters. The IMR version is pretty dang temp stable, as is IMR 4320, IMR 4831, and IMR … ! Built on a customized Remington 700 receiver, the rifle has a 25″ long barrel and used the following parts from Brownells : ^ IMR 4064 & 4895 are close together on my burn rate chart, with 4064 being the slower powder of the two. among center-fire rifle cartridges) has created a wealth of bullets and propellants aimed at everything from reloading for practice, target shooting and hunting. 41.5 gr. Excellent choices for the future would be IMR-4350, IMR-4831, or RL-19. That was true of the Lake City cases that weighed 12.8 grs. IMR calls 4166 " fine extruded" It is almost the same size a H4831(not short cut) I thought it metered horribly. About AR15.COM. 4064 is an excellent powder for the '06, though maybe a tad too fast for the 180 gr. IMR 4895 and IMR 4064 are very close in speed, with 4895 usually considered slightly the faster. bullets.

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