Coffee brown or dark walnut mixed with one of your light gray ratios (dura ebony and bona white)? It’s not as fussy as wood or stone, but there are a few guidelines. In general, their gray mixes are very liquidity. As a homeowner, you can do the repair yourself, and you don’t need to sand and refinish. So, if you do matte on 1st coat and feel it’s too matte, then switch to satin for coats 2 and 3 (or vice versa). Site finished to match the rest of the flooring and make sure whoever you hire to do this has great references. Jackie – Absolutely. Oh hi Matt. It costs more than Bona Mega, but it’s worth it as it looks better, lasts longer and amberizes less. They are actually the same product! In the left photo is 7:1. Have tried minwax and other stains with no luck. Do I buff or anything before applying the poly? And, since this is more expensive than your typical refinishing job, you might as well make it last longer so you can postpone the need to refinish your floors again. They are too watery. But really want what we choose to hide the red in the oak. We were thinking of bleaching the floors first which we also thought might lead to a more uniform flooring color. A lot of gray and brown, super cool. You will have a much easier time (and probably happier client) if you just do a dark stain…or a dark stain with a hint of gray. I wish I could give you a recipe, but that’s really impossible until you see what it looks like on the wood and next to your cabinet sample. I personally like Somerset, but there are many options such as Mohawk, Shaw, Armstrong. They are especially popular in NYC. Subscriber Exclusive Offer Privacy Policy. Can I use one of those flat sanding pads that hook to the pole to lightly sand between poly coats with 220 grit instead of getting a buffer machine? When it comes to water borne poly, there is no dispute, Bona Traffic HD is the best in the market place. I guess most of my questions are in the buffing/screening process. on Amazon…it may be hard for you to find duraseal locally…not sure) or offer to pay him for the additional cans. I relayed a lot of your (awesome!) Colonial Maple. I think the white stain may be water based (I’ll need to check). Where do you live? Then you can give your wooden floors a brand-new look, Dreaming of gorgeous, natural wood floors? Please help as I need to stain in a few days. see this article on why duraseal over minwax and where to get it: https://theflooringgirl.com/hardwood-flooring/minwax-vs-duraseal-stain-better-hardwood-floors.html. We have found doing an ebony/white mix works best and/or mixing in some true black. I have not seen True Black on American Cherry, so not sure how it would come out. However, with a 50/50 blend it may be dark enough to camouflage the pink undertones. Buff before 2nd coat? From there, they can provide an estimate -- the labor and materials cost could be anywhere from $4,000 on up depending on the type and grade of wood. The carpet sample is from Tuftex (Marblehead is the style). It'll look far better if the new flooring is the same size, grade, and type of hardwood as in the adjoining rooms. Natural wood tones vary, so expect your final stain color to vary slightly from board to board. It is more expensive but it is THE BEST form of installation we have. They only have the water based. Red oak has underlying red tones, and often a darker gray is needed to achieve the desired look. Treads and stairnoses are often red oak, and if you have white oak or another species, it would not look the same. You can try Bona gray and see if you like it, and if so go for it. I asked my contractor for a sample of bona white and duraseal ebony. If you are matching existing flooring do not use prefinished flooring. Also, by the way, we have found that on most woods with red (e.g. Want to see the floor cleaning products I recommend? Get site finished wood floors instead. Thoughts? At NO ADDITIONAL COST TO YOU, I will earn a small commission, if you purchase them. Self-crosslinking technology provides a tough floor finish that is great for any hardwood floor. And, if you’re looking for this particular floor (which is pre-finished) – Shaw Castlewood Hearth, you can buy it here. If you use the wrong cleaner, you’ll cause yourself a lot of aggravation and risk ruining your floors in the process. And what kind of poly would you use? 3 parts white to 1 ebony…or 5 to 1. I am looking to get 4″ unfinished white oak select. Sand 80/100 grit Have you ever done a 50/50 ebony and country white on red oak? A little darker than I expected but the red seems to pop out places with the red oak. 8. The bigger concern that I’ve warned my customers about is that if they do some now and some later (e.g. Or else replace the wood and go for White Oak or Maple. I always love your informative articles Debbie. Minwax is for do-it-yourselfers; professionals use Duraseal. The right oak is on top and the white oak on the bottom. This did not include the flooring itself. White wash costs a bit more, and water based poly costs a bit more. We did a gray mix on around 3000 sf and didn’t have an issue (as well as others that were 1000-2000 sf. Also when he puts the poly finish layer on it seems darker. If he can’t mix, try dark walnut, antique brown and coffee brown. then, do 3 coats Bona Traffic HD for poly. This gives the wood a unique patina and texture. Is it possible to mix the Ebony with the Classic Grey to get a draker grey? In the far right picture, the sample on the right is 3 parts white to 1 ebony, middle is 5:1, left is 4:1. Your email address will not be published. These are shown on white oak. Golden Brown. I really appreciate it. Or is it the common household Clorox we’re talking about? I have a quick question…Do you use BONA DriFast Naturals for the White and for the Ebony is it DuraSeal QuickCoat or Penetrating Finish? You may find 7 to 1 or 9 to 1 or 11 to 1 works…just test until you like the color. We decided to just go with a “classic” wood color and ditch the gray. Apply final coat. LC – Sorry about the delay. Often, my guys take one of those large plastic milk containers and cut the top off. As I try to suggest (frequently) here on Houzz & elsewhere... flooring is a decision that should be considered in depth because it needs to PERFORM as well as look good. We are going to install white oak flooring and want a natural wood look with no staining or amberizing. An oil based poly will turn the floor yellowish and it just won’t work well with the gray. Next question I did two coats of Poly with the one gallon of traffic HD in satin. Stain should be consistent and applied in strips to avoid any cross-grain color-variant lines. If you don’t like to spend a lot of time on touch ups, and instead prefer a floor with less maintenance, then use Bona Traffic HD (note: Bona Traffic is also environmentally friendly). And, yes, I know it’s so annoying that Bona doesn’t have their white stain on Amazon. Thank you for your blog post. Those go from lightest to darkest. Which duraseal browns have a green tint? It looks different on each floor and more often we have been doing on select grade, so it will look different. After all, refinishing hardwood floors can be rather inconvenient as you need to move all the furniture and often vacate the house. You may also need to use a conditioner (test it) so it absorbs more evenly. Porcelain Floor and Wall Tile (14.55 sq. water based poly. Thank you for the reply. Colors are shown on White Oak. Stain can turn out blotchy on maple floors as these are close pored species (this blotchiness occurs with all stain colors). A much easier and safer option is to do a darker color. He showed me some samples but i was not crazy. I would guess that it would be slightly easier on American Walnut than Brazilian walnut, but that is simply speculation. And, of course it costs more. Its different than the one I sent you. That will get me a dark gray? Espresso. The harsh reality of considering hardwood flooring at all, is the fact that... as you mentioned... depending on the PRODUCT & by who/where it was manufactured can make ALL of the difference in the world. There’s a good chance you won’t be happy with the outcome, even if you’re happy with the sample. Is that he doesn’t want to pay for more cans of stain to test? 9. But, I would look to see what species you have. I can’t see it so I’m just hypothesizing. (And was the hardwood installed at the same time?). This red-toned hardwood floor stain is the perfect match for the exposed terracotta brick walls, mixing a comfortable contemporary look with a loft-style vibe. i used the bona grey since it works well with the bona traffic hd . This site is owned by The Flooring Girl LLC, a subsidiary of Dynamo Marketers. If you do more, you will close the pores and it will not absorb the stain properly. Start with lighter gray (e.g. Maple is a classic wood for butcher block, with light, consistent colors from cream to light tan. Your mix sounds a bit more complicated and we did something similar using maybe 4 colors and did it for 1000 sf and my guys weren’t concerned. I know this is strictly an opinion question, so bare with me. How do you achieve the gray effect? Another question: what do you use to apply the stain and poly? Consider these professional pointers before you lay the first plank, Plan ahead to prevent unsightly or unsafe transitions between floor surfaces. It might be a tad tricky though due to the oils found in most exotic woods so I’m not sure how it would turn out. Gray is very difficult to achieve, especially on red oak and even most professionals have difficulty with this. It’s not the best for wood, especially if it’s not applied properly. If they are oak and just stained dark brown, that is no problem at all and it’s done all the time. It will look a bit better, but the real reason to do it is durability. They will come back tomorrow and put on a 3rd and 4th I believe. Also, you can always add a carpet runner on top if it’s due to the wood species. Eight years ago it was about $8/square foot to install real, unfinished 3” wide white oak planks. This is my first choice vacuum for hardwood floors, the best steam mop for tile floors and best hardwood floor cleaner. White Oak? Find out how to keep them that way, We give you the details on cost, installation, wood varieties and more to help you pick the right hardwood flooring, Know how to apply nail polish? You’ll have to look at that to make sure. Coffee Brown. Find one here. Wait at least 4-5 hrs (each coat takes a bit longer to dry). It is a bit of an art. Then, we’ve added a bit of a tint (ebony) to top layer to make it a bit darker. If you prefer darker colored walls or just a little more pigment than these light grays, you can always use the third swatch down on the Sherwin-Williams paint strip or the fourth or fifth swatch on the Benjamin Moore strip (for the non HC colors). Country White. I’m not familiar with them, but I’m guessing based on the colors that these are water based stains and they are much more challenging (and expensive) to apply and often come out streaky. But whatever you do, test it first and I don’t think testing in a closet will work well. You would want to mix stains using ebony and white for the gray and then some form of brown e.g. If you are doing this yourself, you can buy both…and try both to see which you prefer. Thank you! Dry how long before putting the Bona traffic? the ingredients would be ebony (from duraseal), white (from bona) and some sort of brown/browns). Note: if they are different species, they will never match. I took a test piece and sanded it by hand as best I could to get the finish off. Debbie, I should also mention that in a couple of the rooms, we put a one inch inlay of walnut as part of the floor border (otherwise all oak). Gray over orange is just ugly mud colored. Third, one thing is for certain..you need to ditch the LastnLast and trade up to Bona Traffic HD. x 24 in. I was asking what tool do you use to apply the stain and poly? Unlike polyurethane, the oils penetrate into the wood. But, I think it’s very risky on Cherry, especially as the cherries (both American and Brazilian) are more oily, so I would expect problems. So, if you were to try this, I would also test with dark walnut. It’s an up and coming trend. Gregory – Yes, I would probably mix duraseal ebony and bona white for the gray and just mix to taste. Maybe I’ll grab those 4 (ebony, white (bona), coffee brown, and dark walnut) and hope he is patient. Matt – That is not something I would recommend as it is very red and you will probably have red/pink coming through. Hardwood flooring is something that should be a long term proposition... which is often overlooked in our modern..."planned obsolescence, use it then toss it" frame of mind. Update:  Recently Duraseal introduced a new line of gray blends. If you have pets that may get the floors wet (from going in/out when it rains, water dishes or accidents), you may want to avoid this option. Too bad you’re so far away from Dallas, upstairs floors are next! I hope this makes sense. Porcelain Floor and Wall Tile (14.53 sq. We did some test squares mixing duraseal country white and classic grey in different parts, but there always seemed to be some yellow undertones coming through. ft. / case) Shadow Wood 6 in. Hi! These 2 colors make gray…and then it’s just about how dark (or light) the gray is. I decided I wanted grey floors without realizing that it would be a challenge. If you use too much, you will ruin your floors. I will check them out (hopefully later this week). My floor guy mix duraseal ebony and country white 50/50. So, now that this trend has caught on, we have many homeowners who want to refinish their existing hardwood floors (which are usually oak) to have a similar look). I’ve been rather busy. They will generally use a stand item (could even be a measuring cup) and fill it up 5 times for white and 1 time for ebony (or whatever the ratio is). You can find the link on this page to buy on Amazon. I am installing brand new hardwood flooring and don’t know where to go to buy it. OK, so I have white oak and want a dark gray stain. It was not a premix, they did it at the store. Any tips before we get started? I’m sure durability would be better but seems fine. Also, you can check out this article I just published about an hour ago and try Duraseal’s new “dark gray.” See the article here: Duraseal’s new gray blends. In the above pictures, you see different ratios of white:ebony. In your case, you should be using bona traffic HD for the poly. Anyway, thanks! I really am just looking for the colors that are best to start with. Gray does not come out very well with pine floors which have underlying yellow as well as red tones. Walking around with socks today, there are spots on the floor that are fairly rough and will pull at the fibers in the socks. https://www.bona.com/en-US/Bona-Professional/Products/Coatings/Stains/Bona-DriFast-Stain/. Thanks for the quick response. My recommendation is to stay away from that color. As background, it’s easy to get the gray color in pre-finished maple or birch floors. The wood had white spots and looked damaged. If you are mixing other premade whites (e.g. Happy holidays! Note: the bleach will dry out and damage the wood a bit. Instead, your contractor should make a custom blend of ebony and white. We’ve done this a few times…and sometimes, it may take 10 or more mixes. Bona Nordic Seal. Joe – Oh good, I’m so glad to hear that. I used Minwax Charcoal Gray and covered a small area. Thanks for stopping by and letting me know. But, I would not expect this to work out well on Cherry…you are between a rock and a hard place. I hope this helps. I guess there are 2 different distributors selling it on Amazon. Required fields are marked *. I’ve read to lightly sand between coats with 220 grit sand paper. Enjoy your house and don't let anyone chastise you, especially someone who you gave birth to. Oh and it shouldn’t matter if there if you have select grade or No 1. They still need to screen the floors and add another coat of poly. If you do a traditional brown stain, you can either use oil based or water borne poly. The pink tones would be about the same. The most important thing is that you use Bona Traffic HD. So, $11-$15/sf all the way to $18/sf if doing a rift and quarter sawn white oak with reactive stains, fuming or other high-end finishing. Be careful with the wood species. We have occasionally done country white, but Bona white looks better. What do you recommend for wood choice and stain? Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated! Their solid hardwood planks come in assorted lengths and widths range from 2.25” to 4.25”, have micro-V joint on all four sides of the plank and are pre-finished free from VOCs and formaldehyde. There are many styles you can achieve with engineered tile, starting with classic slate, terracotta, travertine and marble — all the way to tiles that resemble reclaimed wood and linen fabric. It may work or it may look awful. I built my own wood floor out of douglas fir 1×6 and wanted to stain it grey . I have a few questions in the overall process: 1. I haven’t researched this yet. But, you could try natural with Bona traffic poly. I am keeping my fingers crossed and hoping it comes out good without too much pink. I sympathize with folks who have to consider their budget... we all do... but some decisions simply shouldn't be considered on a "lowest cost" basis. Your alternative is simply to go deeper in the gray. Do you have any suggestions for color mixes to provide us with a natural looking gray? My question is, in talking to various contractors, the color I’m looking for (medium brown with cool tone browns, slight grey, not too dark) they are telling me it would be a mix and since I’ve got so much floor to do (over 2,000 square feet) it will be hard to mix the same mixture for the whole house.

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