Dedicated buttons seem like an absolutely necessary inclusion. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. You rock dude! Question. Get Started Making Music - A Production Course for Absolute Beginners ADSR Courses. The DT has a hands-on immediacy from sound generating features over the effects all the way to the sequencer that the MPC line just canât match. What I don’t understand (among many other things) is why people buy it, assumably knowing their usage scenario in advance, and then go complaining on a forum. Thatâs just good business sense. Even for mono samples, Roland made sure to add a spread effect on each voice… super stereo indeed. My comment was already one hundred percent clear, I explicitly stated that it’s a mono synth voice with samples as the sound source. The new Mpc units have a lot going for them, and are basically a DAW, I think a lot of people get hung up on the workflow being heavily touch screen based and it not being too different than a good controller and a DAW. I think if I had the MPC one I would use it all by itself. A laptop bitwig 3 and a good controller is what I would do if I were going for a DAW type music making experience. 212K. Elektron has made sampling a pivotal component to their product lines, and itâs been a very successful addition, itâs definitely time for Elektron to flex a little, We all know the sampler we want and we know Elektron can make it (actually 2 samplers we want them to make lol!!). 5. I don’t like being partially quoted when it misrepresents my statement. So, I guess people asking for stereo samples either don’t understand that the DT is built around 8 synth voices, or they want a 16 voice Digitakt. â¦iâm an old mpc headâ¦and as much i ranted about all that new akai concepts for not beeing the real thing anymore, i must admit, this mpc one starts to get it right again⦠Mayve Iâd pair it would modular. I know what you mean about that slap. YouTube followers. But we all come to these instruments for different reasons, Akai certainly hits a certain market not really for me though. The whole AKAI âDAW in a boxâ thing with the Live was paradoxically a creativity killer for me. The brand new Akai MPC Live is basically a DAW, sampler, and sequencer in one slick box. edit: ok the caps are now italics thanks. Edit and trim samples with hand gestures on the brilliant 7” touch screen display. But, its basically a computer. Iâve heard things about the MPC workflow that makes it seem like it would take getting adapted to- that strongly discourages me. Changing Midi Sequences on the Screen is a lot of touching, trying to hit the correct element, Button Smashing etc. To me the MPC line is no competition to the Digitakt (or any other Elektron device for that matter). MPC ONE vs DIGITAKT = OCTATRACK mk3 as soon as Elektron get out of the Overbridge quasi-endless tunnel. Also forgot to mention, does the One have a compressor like the DT? Pan Track 1 hard left and Track 2 hard right on the Digitakt. I meant that it’s not a straight linear sample playback device like a DAW or MPC, although it can be used in that way with caveats. I moved more and more back to my PC, because it was the same, just more easy. I also want to tell you, to get stereo samples into the DT, load up any stereo sample in your DAW and hard pan to left first, use the sample from USB option on the DT, play the sample in DAW and it will be captured by DT, choose Track 1 on DT when prompted on which track to load the sample to. Question. That’s what Elektron says. the DT owns here. that still canât stream for realâ¦by the wayâ¦streaming audio filesâ¦rememberâ¦that skill, the ot offers since a decadeâ¦. I know noticed the One is just a MPD with the updated screen. end of the dayâ¦itâs all about sound and workflow⦠Repeat with sample panned hard right in DAW, choose Track 2 when prompted. MPC probably has the most flexibility but seems a bit over into "might as well just use your laptop" territory. I’m a bit tired of the traditional oscillator sound anyway and have always gravitated towards samples, one way or the other. The Force has a lot of buttons to press and turn, but I was forced a lot to work on the touch screen and for my opinion, the UI and the workflow on it needs heavy improvements. If I remember correctly the DT has 1gb of +drive opposed to the 2gb or 4gb on the One. But thanks for saying. The grass is not objectively greener on the Akai side. However, I wouldnât trade my DT for it. I don't think there's anything odd or hard about changing a sequence in the middle. Wow I love it! Do you own a Digitakt? The MPC Live II at 3.38kg and 41cm wide is probably still within the limit of being considered portable, although it’s nearly 0.7kg heavier than the original MPC Live. Granted, the DT has other tricks…. Theres no reason akai cudnt add plocks to that though, For sure. I dunno there are comparisons to be made but I feel like plenty of people had the same arguments a while back with the Mpc live VS Digitakt⦠heck Mpc live is used is the price of a digitakt if that says anything. Build Quality- Nah, man. Suddenly, pairing a Digitakt with my Blackbox for the purpose of making it the synth companion, would make some sense. The cliche apples to oranges I suppose. I don’t think this complaint is a misunderstanding of that supposed usage scenario. If youâre into what the Digitakt does well, you donât want an MPC One, I believe. I own both and would recommend the MPC over the Digitakt. It is a misunderstanding of what is clearly written in the specs. But the main reason I sold it was that the DT/DN combo hit my sweet spot and I LOVE the Elektron workflow. Facebook likes. MPC One. But I‘m more used to elektron workflow. However, it is certainly a case of me over-expecting rather than Akai under-delivering. On my journey to get away from my computer as much as possible during music creation (because I sit at my computer the full day for work), I also tried the Akai route (Used the Akai Force). Sure, it’s all about CPU usage in the end. I definitely donât want an MPC, I want an Elektron sampler, I think most of us just want the âbestâ Elektron sampler they can makeâ¦for me if I didnât have my octatraks Iâd just stick with a laptop and my Renoise just to keep it in the family lol! The MPC on the other hand has exponentially more functionality but that makes it harder to find a role for it other than âcomplete production centreâ â¦a role for which it then again lacks those features that would truly make it a âDAW in a box.â. Storage- Before I got my Cirklon I sequenced everything with the MPC, its timing is great. Get Started Making Music - A Production Course for Absolute Beginners ADSR Courses. It’s my permanent MIDI hub, even when it doesn’t make a squeak and it pretty much plugs every hole I might have. The MPC Live might be the more capable of the machines. Me, I could never do with one sequence that's 3-5 minutes long…editing that here and there would be too much of a hassle for me. Close. MPC1000 vs 1010 Blackbox vs Digitakt. !..this new mpc will definitely be a success, and I can see it becoming a staple product for a lot of kats, the features are thereâ¦but its a âproduction centerâ not a âdrum computerâ so to really competeâ¦Elektron is going to develop their version of the best sampler/production center (and Iâll be happy to pay 1400 for too). People who complain about the stereo samples are fundamentally misunderstanding the usage scenario that the DT was designed around. The Digitakt takes the scenic route to a destination thatâs not as far as the new MPCs. Anyone any thoughts? My only thought is that itâs good for Elektron to have a fire lit under their ass. Hopefully having competition will help rethink how many developer hours they can sink into a product though! MPC One also features our signature synth engines, Electric, Tubesynth and Bassline, as well as our premium AIR FX for mixing & mastering. MPC One VS DT? I already know what to expect from the MPC Live, its gonna be interesting jumping from one machine to another Iâd say the One is gunning more for the Roland 707 and likes. Of course it can be co-opted to do things like play loops etc that are not one-shot samples, but it will never be as good at things like that as a device like an MPC or a DAW. This so much. MPC One vs Digitakt. It’s not fun at all. It probably is the most "complete" option. However, if youâre into the 707 ⦠this one is an option, for sure. But have gravitated towards all the demos where it’s used as a polyphonic synth with that Retro Kit cable. Also once again, if you want to use stereo samples, it has the ability to do so using two tracks and can actually go VERY far down that path. They both can do things the other one can‘t, the MPC being more „complete“ regarding features. sl1200mk2 February 9, 2020, 11:48pm #378. Whatever floats your boat. Digitakt has that "Elektron workflow" but seems heavily reliant on a lot of button combos to remember. Wanna delete a series of midi events? Owning both a Digitakt and a TR-8S (which is also a beat making powerhouse for sure), I can assure you stereo samples make a lot of sense there, even for one-shot samples. I explained how you can use it in stereo. Fully compatible with MPC firmware 2.9! Than I bought 2 Didi* devices (for the same Price of a Force) and have not touched my PC for composing a single time. The DT compressor is software. Hmm read my posts man I was very clear about the distinction between linear sample playback device and synth voice with sample source. The Digitakt was designed as a " Beat making powerhouse", " drum machine and sampler". Hope its just your unit and not every MPC one out there. One of the ways the Digitakt is kept simpler than Octatrack is that all audio tracks are the same, with a single mode. Software seems buggy. One is a mono sampling and no velocity machine, while the other is a stereo sampling and velocity sensitive machine. I don’t think this complaint is a misunderstanding of that supposed usage scenario. The Digitakt is NOT a sample playback device. 1. Once you are familiar you can do an astounding amount of sequencing/sampling/ live play with the MPC. Overall- Elektron’s Octatrack (now in its second iteration) is a also a staple of creative sampling and music production in general. (I feel like the Live should of been in this form factor and the One vice versa.) Which standalone is right for me? With the announcement, and the price range, this kind of feels like competition for digitakt. You’re sharing and just happened to find my buttons. Also what was a benefit over the DT to me was the ease of exporting, more specifically the âexplode tracksâ feature. The sequencer on it sounds really nice though. MPC ONE vs DIGITAKT = OCTATRACK mk3 as soon as Elektron get out of the Overbridge quasi-endless tunnel. I have the digitakt and love it but the velocity/pressure pads songmode and touch screen etc really look great. Elektron Digitakt vs. Octatrack - Workflow Comparison. Ya! I have to agree with some of the other members comments âcompetitionâ is a good thingâ¦Akai has definitely made a statement, and Mpc 1âs price point makes it obvious what market theyâre gunning for. There is a distinction. I think most people on the forum that own a Digitakt DO understand, and a vocal few do not. The Digitakt is NOT a sample playback device. There are a bunch of other things the Live can do that DT can’t BUT as for the OP’s question, if you love your DT do not dump it for an MPC because it will not do many things a DT does and even the things they both do they will do in very different ways. The entire comment is necessary to understand my point. The MPC Live might be the more capable of the machines. and even if the workflow seems to get better again with this new comeback of additional buttons to get around the touch touch a bit more again, the mpc got no truu balls, when it comes to what comes outâ¦while the takt has the biggest slap and punch iâve ever eyperiencedâ¦, might be wrong with this new akai soundthing and itâs only this overdose of sugar must have dentist appointments when i hear all these akai presets and itâs just meâ¦but uarghâ¦, and up to now, all developer hours money of akai was not really that effective invested money as it is in swedenâ¦where they even fight the endless overbridge fight against all sonic windmills on top of it all⦠You’ve definitely peaked my interest now. but⦠I’ve never looked at the Digitakt that way. It has odd baked-in limitations but they don't really bother me. Same plastic/clear loud clicky buttons and all. But I will say this, if I could get an One at a great discount price I would probably do it. and in the bottomline, speaking of competitionâ¦this new akai thing is more aiming to and dangerous for roland anywaysâ¦, but yupâ¦this looks like a nice machine⦠LATEST COURSES. I feel kinda sorry for them having to compete with massive corporations like Akai in some ways, but at the same time if enough of your users (the ones who buy your products) cry out for something, give it to them! Depends on your needs. The new Mpc units have a lot going for them, and are basically a DAW, I think a lot of people get hung up on the workflow being heavily touch screen based and it not being too different than a good controller and a DAW. It is a sound creation device, essentially a monophonic synthesizer per track. I always thought the DT had some kind of Analog Heatness implemented lol and was just delayed due to software issues. Perhaps, given the price difference it's not strictly a fair comparison, but it's one that many musicians and producers have been making of late due to both machines being available here and now. Somehow the MPC, despite being 13 years older, has a much better sequencer with 32 tracks instead of 8 and proper polyphony including polyphonic sample playing. YouTube followers. Shame it doesnât have a built in battery. So with the MPC Touch I did all my work inside 1 sequence and never looked back. You would need a fully doubled path. would love to see a band pass filter in their next release. igitakt is a much more focused device, shines as a drum machine but it can do some other cool tricks. And once 2.7 hit I I started noticing occasional lagging I felt like that was the last straw for me. ... AKAI MPC One - Overview and Workflow Tutorial. 283.0K. I feel the sequencer on the MPC line has a poor UI (wanna zoom in? 283.0K. I hope that is not a deterrence though because the MPC is … I’ll say this, if stereo sampling were added it would be great, but it would require a totally modified system architecture with every part of the monophonic signal path duplicated. Convenient feature but adds to the value. The latter, while fun, feels quite hobbled. 212K. Really, did not know that about the compressor. The MPC is great for finger drumming, sequencing / performing with track mutes, or building entire pieces linearly like in a traditional DAW. Add to cart. But, its basically a computer. I’ve always loved how it sounds, so maybe because it’s spoken to me as a polyphonic instrument with unique capabilities, and not as a sampler in my traditional way of looking at it. I want to sample off of my CD collection and it is important to me that the sample retains the original recording’s stereo image, so that ruled out the DT for me and I ended up with an MPC Live. I bought it thinking it would be a complete setup on it’s own but that is only true in theory for me. The MPC Live also lacks hardware controls critical to a hands-on workflow (eg buttons for modesâ¦instead it has + / - buttons which are pretty much uselessâ¦the MPC One remedies this to some extend but eg the awkward Q-Links mapping and the lack of eg a Macros page still limits eg immediate hands on control of onboard effects). As a utility device it is incomparable (usb host, Bluetooth, Air effects, SSD drive to name a few) but working on the device is so unbelievably uninspiring. I think most samplers are not specifically one or the other and are somewhere on the spectrum between “sample playback device” and “sound creation device”. It felt like working in a DAW on the Computer just with the negative influences of a small screen and less possibilities of interaction. Mine has done this a few times, but not consistently or a lot. Article by Denis1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, As much as I liked the features and the power the system has, as others mentioned already: Its a computer with a âDAWâ and Buttons. Like I said, it’s a mono synth architecture with a sample as the sound source. The Digitakt takes the scenic route to a destination that’s not as far as the new MPCs. If you want a more in-depth comparison, we'd highly recommend watching our video courses (the recorded live lectures are even free) for the Akai MPC Live and the Elektron Digitakt . Digitakt is a compact sampling drum machine from Elektron. It’s you that misunderstands the device even if you don’t acknowledge it. Why ignore the rest of my comment, maybe you stopped reading right at the point that you decided to comment? Elektron samplers bring a unique flavor to the Sampler market, I wouldnât honestly compare the two myself (two very different companies, and two very different approaches)â¦that said though, Elektron has matured to a âhigh expectationâ company, and theyâve surpassed their cult status of olâ. badbass January 16, 2020, 2:35pm #26. Very interesting perspective. I don’t like the digitakt because lack of velocity pads though. Ill-Green wrote:The Digitakt is crazy, Elektron says there is no slice function but I see you can chop rapidly when done manually with the knobs and copy samples at sections within the sample, its crazy to explain but I understand it.Thats why I want one.
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